Folks,
It is over now we have Fr. Francis Nyawir. I don't know if what I saw can change my thinking but I appreciated going there in fact He "Blessed" me. To be sincere everything was hollow......... I was happy because i met so many Fish group members all the members of all times. The ones who have their experiences with priests and the curious ones. They were all there and we enjoyed our same union. we took photos with all the big Guns who were present.
There was one thing that did not go well with all the people who attended and this was that fr. Pesa of coptic concelebrated the Eucharist. this and that everybody was allowed to recieve "holy communion" Jothurwa Komnio Mtakatifu onge ikruok ne. I do not attach any true value to this but I think we need to give these people some time as there could be more that we have not seen.
after the service the Fr. Shihundu told us to join the Change otherwise we will find ourselves on the wrong side when the change is inevitable. Good quote though maturity state that watch before you leap.
All the people who said they will be there were missing in action. these include but not limited to Ann, Vincent wuod Guardian, Hellen Gamba, i wish to ask you to be serious with your messages when you are to be there please be there and give feed back.
Oritiuru Jorech wetena Sammy will upload the photos.
Martin Opondo
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Martin
Pleas upload the photos. we are eagerly awaiting them
Dear Friends,
I wish to congratulate Fr. Nyawir for finally making it to priesthood. I believe he shall do everything possible to make his calling a success. I do appreciate the cautionary approach most of us are taking of course its a new thing and we need to control our emotions and indeed use our brains.
REDEEMED ROMAN CATHOLIC, OR REFORMED ROMAN CATHOLIC whatever you want to call it even RENEGADE ROMAN CATHOLIC it still ends up being RRC! What I want to say is this, Nyawir deserved this, at least he never defected to any of the noise making so called pentecostal church like societies, he was patient and finally got a place he can rest and worship his God. What would you have done, having been denied your desire to be a priest seven years after struggling? When you go to address your problems with the relevant authorities they do not listen to you instead they excommunicate you from the church, there is no need for the Cardinal Njue to excommunicate him now, they had done it before. It is time the mainstream church realized that we are continuosly getting options and if they play it hard, we shall not have cassoc wearers in our pulpit. Treat people equally and restpect other peoples opinion however divergent they may be.
I have known the family of the Nyawirs for quite a long time apart from Fr. Nyawir, i knew the late Paul Nyawir, Orusi, Okullo and the parents. This family was a blessed familiy if I have to say this......Getting a family where more than two sons aspire to be priests is not easy especially when they are also the JARUOS Museveni was referring to who believe that the sons must get married in order to carry on the family lineage. The kind of stigma people label on you when you fail to be a priest when all along for seven years they have known that you have been working towards being a priest is DEADLY. I am glad Nyawir never went to a depression but kept on working and praying that one day God shall make his dream come true.
My Brothers and Sisters, let us not pretend that we do not know completely what has been going on....... I may be wrong in assuming this, however, how many people have been expelled from our seminaries because they come from the wrong families or regions? How many have been expelled because they do not agree with some things, or basically because they do not say yes to everything they are told...........DIVERGENCE in opinion is a healthy thing in the society and the superious ( you will excuse my language I never entered those seminaries ) whom we assume to have mastered phylosophy and theology should not find it offending if they are put on the defensive.
Last but not least, I want to talk about the Late Paul Nyawir, the brother to Fr. Nyawir, I had the oppoturnity of meeting with him a number of times when he was alive and even at his death bed at the Nairobi Hospital. This was a gentleman with a strong desire to serve God and his people, was patient however, was frustrated by the forces that be............when he was dying he was called a priest I do not know if that was the right title, I never attended his burial I could not take it. I do not understand why an african has to take seven or more years to become a priest when an american takes a shorter time to be one. How many of you have met Former american marines or teachers who became priests latter after studying for less than the so called seven years? Does it mean we are daft? There is a problem and it MUST be addressed. If we don't then our churches and cathedrals will be converted to museums and hostels as is the case in some parts of Europe.
God bless you all and take time before you join the RENEGADE ROMAN CATHOLIC church but if you have to, I wish you well.
Regards,
Emmanuel Okwach
Hey Okwach Emmanuel,
Iolo pi maliet e iya... In fact, you have talked from the deepest of your heart. And as the spanish say: without any load on your tongue... It is good to talk these things out. I've got several food for thought in your mail. But these ones have struck me most: "...What would you have done, having been denied your desire to be a priest seven years after struggling? When you go to address your problems with the relevant authorities they do not listen to you instead they excommunicate you from the church..."
The other one is: "...I do not understand why an african has to take seven or more years to become a priest when an american takes a shorter time to be one. How many of you have met Former american marines or teachers who became priests latter after studying for less than the so called seven years? Does it mean we are daft?..."
Though I'm comfortable with my vocation and my church (not some way of doing things of some of the big men)... you have made my mind go back to those years of the 80s when Kenya was a single party state. Ukisema nyweee, you are kicked out of Kanu and even given house arrest, unanyimwa pasaporte etc... That changed when we became multiparty whereby people had options to of this party or the other. Now, it is not an exclusive example but let those who are not comfortable with celibacy or whatever, go where they feel at home... excumunicated? Well, that is automatic according to the norms of the Roman Catholic Church (cannon law) which those crossing over have studiend and know...
On the other note, it is funny when you talk of the seven years, in fact seven is the least one can take. Some go for twelve to thirteen and then you are told NO or you are not even given reason... After moving around this world (4continents out of the 5), I've seen many things - watu wanabembelezwa to be priests while in Kenya if in the first place you have failed KCSE then forget about that thing called VOCATION, you told have it. God does not call "idiots" even if you are a "saint". Then why are we not using the same gauge for all??? Well, all this come to mind when we see things work differently when we always thought it was the way we knew them... And this is not only for priests - it is for nuns and for lay alike... "When I speak, then I'm classified as a rebel..." or should I put it this way: "...when I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a communist..." Said one latin american bishop. Anyway, I remain with his words. Peace and reconciliation to our church.
Fr. Gordon.
Mgala muuwe na haki yake mpe! I think we all have a story or two to share about the nasty experience we have had with the church hierarchy. But am strengthened by the fact that these ills were done by people. the church remains strong and its teaching basic and easy. The church has passed down to us just one major teaching of Jesus. Love one another as I have loved you. That easy law can be followed whether u are priest or even a choir member.
And to Okwachs issue about 7 years. I would not be suprised. Why? Al give you one example. In kenya to join the army you must be at least 6 feat and must be able to run etc. My cousin is in the US army and he is about 5 feat and had never run in his life. To get the position he just walked into the army offices. What I mean is this, when u have plenty of aspirants you have to show off. Even a young woman who is being courted by all the men in the village always ups her stakes very high. Its as human as the catholic church which is also human and devine.
Meanwhile we are eagerly awaitint the photos to be put in the blog
Hey Opondo, it was not Paul Nyawir but Francis Nyawir... The two are brothers (Paul being the late deacon with the Dominican Friars)... So, correct the headline please...
Thanks.
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